justinvacula
Justin Vacula
@MrAtheistPants With is with your constant pandering toward women, Dave? It seems to belittle them, as if their merits don't stand on own.
MrAtheistPants
David Silverman
@justinvacula you mean when I treat women as equals & allies, while dissing the anonymous assholes who post and rt vile messages & pix?
@justinvacula you mean when I treat women as equals & allies, while dissing the anonymous assholes who post and rt vile messages & pix?
justinvacula
Justin Vacula
@MrAtheistPants So much pandering w these anti-harassment policies, skepchick.org/2012/07/speaki…, tweet about having more than 50% speakers...
@MrAtheistPants So much pandering w these anti-harassment policies, skepchick.org/2012/07/speaki…, tweet about having more than 50% speakers...
justinvacula
Justin Vacula
@MrAtheistPants This stuff is not needed. The merits of women in this movement stand on their own...and they don't need to be 'defended.'
@MrAtheistPants This stuff is not needed. The merits of women in this movement stand on their own...and they don't need to be 'defended.'
justinvacula
Justin Vacula
@MrAtheistPants With your pandering, you help spread false narrative - that community is hostile to and excluding women.
@MrAtheistPants With your pandering, you help spread false narrative - that community is hostile to and excluding women.
MrAtheistPants
David Silverman
@justinvacula SOME of the community is genuinely hostile. It disgusts me. When some Pretend otherwise,despite evidence,it looks like defense
@justinvacula SOME of the community is genuinely hostile. It disgusts me. When some Pretend otherwise,despite evidence,it looks like defense
justinvacula
Justin Vacula
@MrAtheistPants What is the evidence? Who are these "genuinely hostile" people and how do you know they are part of community?
@MrAtheistPants What is the evidence? Who are these "genuinely hostile" people and how do you know they are part of community?
MrAtheistPants
David Silverman
@justinvacula I would LOVE to see you publicly trash the genuine haters. Stop pretending there are no assholes.
@justinvacula I would LOVE to see you publicly trash the genuine haters. Stop pretending there are no assholes.
RichardReed84
Richard Reed
@MrAtheistPants I think @justinvacula knows better than to feed the trolls.
@MrAtheistPants I think @justinvacula knows better than to feed the trolls.
justinvacula
Justin Vacula
@MrAtheistPants Why is it case I ought to publicly trash? I can't police the whole of internet trolling. Who are these "genuine haters?"
@MrAtheistPants Why is it case I ought to publicly trash? I can't police the whole of internet trolling. Who are these "genuine haters?"
justinvacula
Justin Vacula
@MrAtheistPants There are jerks out there, sure, but are these people in movement, serious voices in discussion? What are they saying?
@MrAtheistPants There are jerks out there, sure, but are these people in movement, serious voices in discussion? What are they saying?
MrAtheistPants
David Silverman
@justinvacula for example, the fake pic of @rebeccawatson in sexually demeaning position. Can you agree that's shit? Publicly?
@justinvacula for example, the fake pic of @rebeccawatson in sexually demeaning position. Can you agree that's shit? Publicly?
RichardReed84
Richard Reed
@MrAtheistPants @justinvacula even talking about it would draw attention to it, which is exactly what the person who did it wants.
@MrAtheistPants @justinvacula even talking about it would draw attention to it, which is exactly what the person who did it wants.
toxicpath
Somite
@RichardReed84 @MrAtheistPants @justinvacula Reprehensible? Yes. However, not related to atheism or skepticism.
@RichardReed84 @MrAtheistPants @justinvacula Reprehensible? Yes. However, not related to atheism or skepticism.
MrAtheistPants
David Silverman
@toxicpath @RichardReed84 @justinvacula I completely disagree, and use your tweet as case-in-point.
@toxicpath @RichardReed84 @justinvacula I completely disagree, and use your tweet as case-in-point.
justinvacula
Justin Vacula
@MrAtheistPants @toxicpath @RichardReed84 Is this photoshop from someone in the movement? How do you know?
@MrAtheistPants @toxicpath @RichardReed84 Is this photoshop from someone in the movement? How do you know?
MrAtheistPants
David Silverman
@toxicpath @RichardReed84 @justinvacula same goes for EVERYONE who lol'ed it and rt'd. Shit shit shit. This is your problem.
@toxicpath @RichardReed84 @justinvacula same goes for EVERYONE who lol'ed it and rt'd. Shit shit shit. This is your problem.
justinvacula
Justin Vacula
@MrAtheistPants @toxicpath @RichardReed84 Apparently, we can bash Islam all day and Draw Mohammad, but RW is sacred, immune from ridicule?
@MrAtheistPants @toxicpath @RichardReed84 Apparently, we can bash Islam all day and Draw Mohammad, but RW is sacred, immune from ridicule?
toxicpath
Somite
@justinvacula @MrAtheistPants @RichardReed84 Mohammed the prophet doesn't exist but RW is a person. I wouldn't ridicule anyone.
@justinvacula @MrAtheistPants @RichardReed84 Mohammed the prophet doesn't exist but RW is a person. I wouldn't ridicule anyone.
MrAtheistPants
David Silverman
@justinvacula @toxicpath @RichardReed84 hyperbole. Never said nor suggested that. You are not hearing me.
@justinvacula @toxicpath @RichardReed84 hyperbole. Never said nor suggested that. You are not hearing me.
CamelsHammers
Dan Fincke
@MrAtheistPants @toxicpath @RichardReed84 Yes @rebeccawatson should indeed be off limits to that, @justinvacula why? tinyurl.com/nond6rc
@MrAtheistPants @toxicpath @RichardReed84 Yes @rebeccawatson should indeed be off limits to that, @justinvacula why? tinyurl.com/nond6rc
justinvacula
Justin Vacula
@CamelsHammers @MrAtheistPants @toxicpath @RichardReed84 @rebeccawatson I don't support that image. Don't see as 'problem' in mvt from this
@CamelsHammers @MrAtheistPants @toxicpath @RichardReed84 @rebeccawatson I don't support that image. Don't see as 'problem' in mvt from this
CamelsHammers
Dan Fincke
It's the avalanche of such harassment, @justinvacula It's a problem. @MrAtheistPants @toxicpath @RichardReed84 @rebeccawatson
It's the avalanche of such harassment, @justinvacula It's a problem. @MrAtheistPants @toxicpath @RichardReed84 @rebeccawatson
OpheliaBenson
Ophelia Benson
@MrAtheistPants @toxicpath @RichardReed84 @justinvacula Love you, Dave!!
@MrAtheistPants @toxicpath @RichardReed84 @justinvacula Love you, Dave!!
EIAtheism
Julia Larson
@OpheliaBenson @MrAtheistPants @toxicpath @RichardReed84 @justinvacula Agree- thank you Dave!
@OpheliaBenson @MrAtheistPants @toxicpath @RichardReed84 @justinvacula Agree- thank you Dave!
justinvacula
Justin Vacula
@EIAtheism @OpheliaBenson @MrAtheistPants @toxicpath @RichardReed84 Julia, do you approve of Mexican drug cartels? Do you fight them?
@EIAtheism @OpheliaBenson @MrAtheistPants @toxicpath @RichardReed84 Julia, do you approve of Mexican drug cartels? Do you fight them?
EIAtheism
Julia Larson
.@justinvacula @OpheliaBenson @MrAtheistPants @toxicpath @RichardReed84 No & if I were involved in the anti-cartel movement I WOULD fight em
.@justinvacula @OpheliaBenson @MrAtheistPants @toxicpath @RichardReed84 No & if I were involved in the anti-cartel movement I WOULD fight em
MrAtheistPants
David Silverman
@justinvacula Your detractors don't mind criticism. They mind hate. Take their sides when you agree. Seek no excuses to miss opportunities.
@justinvacula Your detractors don't mind criticism. They mind hate. Take their sides when you agree. Seek no excuses to miss opportunities.
justinvacula
Justin Vacula
@MrAtheistPants People like RW conflate - act as if all opposition is "haters" "misogynists" "sexists" and such.
@MrAtheistPants People like RW conflate - act as if all opposition is "haters" "misogynists" "sexists" and such.
MrAtheistPants
David Silverman
@justinvacula then criticize her. But just as I vocally abhor violence against churches, YOU must abhor hate v women to be taken seriously.
@justinvacula then criticize her. But just as I vocally abhor violence against churches, YOU must abhor hate v women to be taken seriously.
justinvacula
Justin Vacula
@MrAtheistPants What is this "hate v women?" Why make it a gendered issue, anyway?
@MrAtheistPants What is this "hate v women?" Why make it a gendered issue, anyway?
justinvacula
Justin Vacula
@MrAtheistPants Has RW been met with violence or threats of violence? Evidence please.
@MrAtheistPants Has RW been met with violence or threats of violence? Evidence please.
nicoleintrovert
Nicole Introvert
@justinvacula Why do you continue to deny the evidence after it has been presented on MULTIPLE occasions?
@justinvacula Why do you continue to deny the evidence after it has been presented on MULTIPLE occasions?
nicoleintrovert
Nicole Introvert
@justinvacula Skepchick's Page O Hate, Greta Christina's #mencallmethings, Ophelia's cache of comments on her blog. They are all there.
@justinvacula Skepchick's Page O Hate, Greta Christina's #mencallmethings, Ophelia's cache of comments on her blog. They are all there.
justinvacula
Justin Vacula
@nicoleintrovert Point to specific claim of violence or threats thereof. I see none there. I see nastiness and trolling.
@nicoleintrovert Point to specific claim of violence or threats thereof. I see none there. I see nastiness and trolling.
justinvacula
Justin Vacula
@nicoleintrovert "Ophelia's cache of comments on her blog?" What kind of evidrnce is that?
@nicoleintrovert "Ophelia's cache of comments on her blog?" What kind of evidrnce is that?
BruceMcGlory
Bruce McGlory
@justinvacula @MrAtheistPants Evidence is very easily found on her webpage. Stop the incompetent lying.
@justinvacula @MrAtheistPants Evidence is very easily found on her webpage. Stop the incompetent lying.
RichardReed84
Richard Reed
@MrAtheistPants David, clearly trolling (which I abhor) is a big problem. My solution is “don’t feed the trolls”. What is yours?
@MrAtheistPants David, clearly trolling (which I abhor) is a big problem. My solution is “don’t feed the trolls”. What is yours?
CamelsHammers
Dan Fincke
@justinvacula @MrAtheistPants You LET her do that by not separating yourself from the hatred but making excuses for it.
@justinvacula @MrAtheistPants You LET her do that by not separating yourself from the hatred but making excuses for it.
CamelsHammers
Dan Fincke
@justinvacula @MrAtheistPants A moment ago you justified sexually demeaning images of RW by comparing them to justifiable satire of islam
@justinvacula @MrAtheistPants A moment ago you justified sexually demeaning images of RW by comparing them to justifiable satire of islam
Stooshie
Andrew Wilson
.@CamelsHammers Could you point to the tweet where @justinvacula did that please? @MrAtheistPants
.@CamelsHammers Could you point to the tweet where @justinvacula did that please? @MrAtheistPants
justinvacula
Justin Vacula
@CamelsHammers @MrAtheistPants I did not justify anything. I asked a question.
@CamelsHammers @MrAtheistPants I did not justify anything. I asked a question.
justinvacula
Justin Vacula
@CamelsHammers @MrAtheistPants If we are going to demean Mohammad, Islam and be OK, why be up in arms about (1/2)
@CamelsHammers @MrAtheistPants If we are going to demean Mohammad, Islam and be OK, why be up in arms about (1/2)
CamelsHammers
Dan Fincke
@justinvacula @MrAtheistPants Here was my answer about the satire of islam vs. satire of tw, in case you missed it: tinyurl.com/nond6rc
@justinvacula @MrAtheistPants Here was my answer about the satire of islam vs. satire of tw, in case you missed it: tinyurl.com/nond6rc
justinvacula
Justin Vacula
@CamelsHammers @MrAtheistPants people satirizing, ridiculing Rebecca Watson? Why is she on the pedestal? (2/2)
@CamelsHammers @MrAtheistPants people satirizing, ridiculing Rebecca Watson? Why is she on the pedestal? (2/2)
CamelsHammers
Dan Fincke
@justinvacula @MrAtheistPants She's not on a pedestal.The real question's why there's website DEVOTED to hating her & allies as sole purpose
@justinvacula @MrAtheistPants She's not on a pedestal.The real question's why there's website DEVOTED to hating her & allies as sole purpose
justinvacula
Justin Vacula
@CamelsHammers @MrAtheistPants Can you pls identify site and how you know it has sole purpose, is dedicated to hate of RW and friends?
@CamelsHammers @MrAtheistPants Can you pls identify site and how you know it has sole purpose, is dedicated to hate of RW and friends?
CamelsHammers
Dan Fincke
@justinvacula @MrAtheistPants Is there another purpose to the SlymePit than hating RW and friends? Is it advancing some other agenda?
@justinvacula @MrAtheistPants Is there another purpose to the SlymePit than hating RW and friends? Is it advancing some other agenda?
justinvacula
Justin Vacula
@CamelsHammers @MrAtheistPants Actually, there are all sorts of non-RW and friends conversations...and it is not all hate...or even mostly.
@CamelsHammers @MrAtheistPants Actually, there are all sorts of non-RW and friends conversations...and it is not all hate...or even mostly.
CamelsHammers
Dan Fincke
@justinvacula @MrAtheistPants I'm talking about the purpose of the site, Justin, not whether friendships have happened to bloom there.
@justinvacula @MrAtheistPants I'm talking about the purpose of the site, Justin, not whether friendships have happened to bloom there.
justinvacula
Justin Vacula
@CamelsHammers @MrAtheistPants You should know, anyway, I am among most photoshopped person there. Everyone gets made fun of.
@CamelsHammers @MrAtheistPants You should know, anyway, I am among most photoshopped person there. Everyone gets made fun of.
justinvacula
Justin Vacula
@CamelsHammers @MrAtheistPants You should visit and post on the Slymepit. Put some ideas forth, ask questions. It is fun place.
@CamelsHammers @MrAtheistPants You should visit and post on the Slymepit. Put some ideas forth, ask questions. It is fun place.
caias
Caias Ward
@CamelsHammers disagreeing with implementations is not 'making excuses for it' @justinvacula @MrAtheistPants
@CamelsHammers disagreeing with implementations is not 'making excuses for it' @justinvacula @MrAtheistPants
justinvacula
Justin Vacula
@MrAtheistPants I'm not up for policing the internet with every objectionable picture that might be out there.
@MrAtheistPants I'm not up for policing the internet with every objectionable picture that might be out there.
justinvacula
Justin Vacula
@MrAtheistPants People detest RW and complany because of their behavior, not bc they are women - RW claims misogyny problem in mvt
@MrAtheistPants People detest RW and complany because of their behavior, not bc they are women - RW claims misogyny problem in mvt
MrAtheistPants
David Silverman
@justinvacula you're not listening. I tried to help. Please consider what I've written and meant. Gotta go.
@justinvacula you're not listening. I tried to help. Please consider what I've written and meant. Gotta go.
Astronomylife
Kimmo Koskinen
@MrAtheistPants Thank you for the tweets today. American atheists will get a donation tonight.
@MrAtheistPants Thank you for the tweets today. American atheists will get a donation tonight.
justinvacula
Justin Vacula
@MrAtheistPants Care for debate/discussion in future? Love to have you on future episode of #BraveHero Radio. (1/2)
@MrAtheistPants Care for debate/discussion in future? Love to have you on future episode of #BraveHero Radio. (1/2)
justinvacula
Justin Vacula
@MrAtheistPants Topic/debate concerning sexism in atheist mvt or variations thereof. (2/2)
@MrAtheistPants Topic/debate concerning sexism in atheist mvt or variations thereof. (2/2)
justinvacula
Justin Vacula
@MrAtheistPants Besides, PZ Myers gets a tremendous amount of pushback, people detest him bc of behavior...is that because he is a man?
@MrAtheistPants Besides, PZ Myers gets a tremendous amount of pushback, people detest him bc of behavior...is that because he is a man?
justinvacula
Justin Vacula
@OpheliaBenson @MrAtheistPants How's it going, Ophelia. Are you speaking out against hate directed at CFI, @RALindsay ? Appreciate support
@OpheliaBenson @MrAtheistPants How's it going, Ophelia. Are you speaking out against hate directed at CFI, @RALindsay ? Appreciate support
justinvacula
Justin Vacula
@EIAtheism @OpheliaBenson @MrAtheistPants @toxicpath @RichardReed84 Good luck...and you're really missing my point here.
@EIAtheism @OpheliaBenson @MrAtheistPants @toxicpath @RichardReed84 Good luck...and you're really missing my point here.
EIAtheism
Julia Larson
.@justinvacula @OpheliaBenson @MrAtheistPants @toxicpath @RichardReed84 Your point was that you can't possibly fight EVERYTHING you dislike?
.@justinvacula @OpheliaBenson @MrAtheistPants @toxicpath @RichardReed84 Your point was that you can't possibly fight EVERYTHING you dislike?
justinvacula
Justin Vacula
@EIAtheism @OpheliaBenson @MrAtheistPants @toxicpath @RichardReed84 Dave says that if you don't fight something you are seen as approving it
@EIAtheism @OpheliaBenson @MrAtheistPants @toxicpath @RichardReed84 Dave says that if you don't fight something you are seen as approving it
EIAtheism
Julia Larson
.@justinvacula @OpheliaBenson @MrAtheistPants @toxicpath @RichardReed84 When you're highly involved in the related movement, yeah you are
.@justinvacula @OpheliaBenson @MrAtheistPants @toxicpath @RichardReed84 When you're highly involved in the related movement, yeah you are
MrAtheistPants
David Silverman
@justinvacula @EIAtheism @OpheliaBenson @toxicpath @RichardReed84 no Justin. I said YOU are seen as approving.
@justinvacula @EIAtheism @OpheliaBenson @toxicpath @RichardReed84 no Justin. I said YOU are seen as approving.
justinvacula
Justin Vacula
@OpheliaBenson @MrAtheistPants @toxicpath @RichardReed84 Ophelia Benson approves of the Taliban because she doesn't fight them?
@OpheliaBenson @MrAtheistPants @toxicpath @RichardReed84 Ophelia Benson approves of the Taliban because she doesn't fight them?
justinvacula
Justin Vacula
@MrAtheistPants @toxicpath @RichardReed84 RW and co. lump all critics as one in same when it actually is not the case.
@MrAtheistPants @toxicpath @RichardReed84 RW and co. lump all critics as one in same when it actually is not the case.
MrAtheistPants
David Silverman
@RichardReed84 agree, but praise is implied in the defense, prompting repeat. If @justinvacula is to be heard he must acknowledge, abhor it.
@RichardReed84 agree, but praise is implied in the defense, prompting repeat. If @justinvacula is to be heard he must acknowledge, abhor it.
justinvacula
Justin Vacula
@MrAtheistPants @RichardReed84 Defense? What defense? Who or what am I defending?
@MrAtheistPants @RichardReed84 Defense? What defense? Who or what am I defending?
SubManUSN
SubMan USN
@MrAtheistPants @RichardReed84 @justinvacula Yes, Justin. To be saved er, heard you MUST repent er, abhor and acknowledge.
@MrAtheistPants @RichardReed84 @justinvacula Yes, Justin. To be saved er, heard you MUST repent er, abhor and acknowledge.
RichardReed84
Richard Reed
@MrAtheistPants @justinvacula I disagree. I don’t believe that not renouncing something is the same as approving it.
@MrAtheistPants @justinvacula I disagree. I don’t believe that not renouncing something is the same as approving it.
toxicpath
Somite
@RichardReed84 @MrAtheistPants @justinvacula this is exactly like the religious argument "Hitler and Stalin were atheists".
@RichardReed84 @MrAtheistPants @justinvacula this is exactly like the religious argument "Hitler and Stalin were atheists".
justinvacula
Justin Vacula
@MrAtheistPants @rebeccawatson Sure, it's shit. ...but this is not a serious voice in the discussion. It's an obvious Rule 34 troll picture.
@MrAtheistPants @rebeccawatson Sure, it's shit. ...but this is not a serious voice in the discussion. It's an obvious Rule 34 troll picture.
justinvacula
Justin Vacula
@MrAtheistPants @rebeccawatson You say this is problem in movement. Do we know identity of person who made this picture?
@MrAtheistPants @rebeccawatson You say this is problem in movement. Do we know identity of person who made this picture?