joepie91 Sven Slootweg
And entirely as predicted, encryption will eventually become 'mainstream' enough to lock out governments as a rule rather than exception.

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DanielMeah Daniel Meah
@joepie91 and when they make it illegal to use encryption?...

February 9, 2013 #

joepie91 Sven Slootweg
@DanielMeah Then half the services that society relies on will stop working.

February 9, 2013 #

DanielMeah Daniel Meah
@joepie91 True, but am sure they will find a way to ban it, or stop it from working. Such as the devices the saudi regime has. tor dnt work.

February 9, 2013 #

joepie91 Sven Slootweg
@DanielMeah 1. If you assume that government will do everything to prohibit your freedom without boundaries, why are you not standing up?

February 9, 2013 #

DanielMeah Daniel Meah
@joepie91 what exactly can i do? DDoS wont do anything but prison time. & protesting gets you ignored.

February 9, 2013 #

joepie91 Sven Slootweg
@DanielMeah Why should I be telling you that?

February 9, 2013 #

DanielMeah Daniel Meah
@joepie91 your not. the point is. what ever you try or i try the state will always win. i.e no point fighting the state.

February 9, 2013 #

DanielMeah Daniel Meah
@joepie91 Stop being ignorant & Insulting. all i was saying was there is no point fighting battles your gonna loose.

February 9, 2013 #

joepie91 Sven Slootweg
@DanielMeah [...] you trying to claim that you are immune to documented psychological concepts? Because *that* is ignorant.

February 9, 2013 #

DanielMeah Daniel Meah
@joepie91 am fighting a loosing battle with you here. but simply put i do not have Learned helplessness nor mental illnesses. (cont)

February 9, 2013 #

joepie91 Sven Slootweg
@DanielMeah [...] will fail", as a blanket statement. So where does that statement come from?

February 9, 2013 #

DanielMeah Daniel Meah
@joepie91 listen here, Why are we ever arguing? your not even English and your country has better laws so you have nowt to worry about.

February 9, 2013 #

joepie91 Sven Slootweg
@DanielMeah Nice attempt at evading the point. Aside from your statement about NL being entirely false, why not respond to my question?

February 9, 2013 #

DanielMeah Daniel Meah
@joepie91 am not evading the point dude, Just everytime i reply you rather insult me or ignore the facts. (Such as state control)

February 9, 2013 #

joepie91 Sven Slootweg
@DanielMeah [...] or "ignoring the facts" (remind me where I did this again?)

February 9, 2013 #

DanielMeah Daniel Meah
@joepie91 stop being a smartass. #hatehackers

February 9, 2013 #

joepie91 Sven Slootweg
@DanielMeah Am I the smartass for asking you to support your claim, or are you the dumbass for refusing to do so?

February 9, 2013 #

DanielMeah Daniel Meah
@joepie91 ive already responded to you, i simply said the state has the control. and tor wont help.

February 9, 2013 #

joepie91 Sven Slootweg
@DanielMeah Still waiting for your response. From where comes the statement that "you can't win from government anyway"?

February 9, 2013 #

DanielMeah Daniel Meah
@joepie91 you carnt. they have all the cash you dont.

February 9, 2013 #

joepie91 Sven Slootweg
@DanielMeah What does 'cash' have to do with 'winning from government'?

February 9, 2013 #

DanielMeah Daniel Meah
@joepie91 dude. you know what i said. am not repeating myself. you live in your own world. supporting the coward group anonymous (cont)

February 9, 2013 #

joepie91 Sven Slootweg
@DanielMeah I'm waiting. Or do you maybe not *have* an answer?

February 9, 2013 #

DanielMeah Daniel Meah
@joepie91 you have already had my reply.

February 9, 2013 #

joepie91 Sven Slootweg
@DanielMeah Yet it wasn't an answer to my question. I'm waiting for an answer, not a reply. How is 'cash' related to 'winning from govt'?

February 9, 2013 #

DanielMeah Daniel Meah
@joepie91 those with the cash have the power.

February 9, 2013 #

joepie91 Sven Slootweg
@DanielMeah You have it the wrong way around. Those with the power make the cash. Solution: Bitcoin.

February 9, 2013 #

DanielMeah Daniel Meah
@joepie91 bitcoin is crap. and hardly anyone accepts it anyway

February 9, 2013 #

joepie91 Sven Slootweg
@DanielMeah Crap how exactly? And how do you expect a new not-government-backed currency (!) to gain mass adoption instantly?

February 9, 2013 #

DanielMeah Daniel Meah
@joepie91 crap because you cannot spend it anywhere. and its hard to get.

February 9, 2013 #

joepie91 Sven Slootweg
@DanielMeah [...] mass adoption would occur, and the problems you have wouldn't even exist? Your reasoning is weak.

February 9, 2013 #

DanielMeah Daniel Meah
@joepie91 when exactly?

February 9, 2013 #

joepie91 Sven Slootweg
@DanielMeah Clarification: pastebin.com/MaknXRdi

February 9, 2013 #

DanielMeah Daniel Meah
@joepie91 answer my question.....

February 9, 2013 #

joepie91 Sven Slootweg
@DanielMeah I answered the question in the Pastebin, indirectly. Which part is unclear?

February 9, 2013 #

DanielMeah Daniel Meah
@joepie91 you didnt.

February 9, 2013 #

joepie91 Sven Slootweg
@DanielMeah owely.com/3NibLL

February 9, 2013 #

DanielMeah Daniel Meah
@joepie91 not clicking that, could be a virus knowing you.

February 9, 2013 #

joepie91 Sven Slootweg
@DanielMeah Oh please, stop making up bullshit. It's a fucking screenshot, and it's easy to verify domain legitimacy via Google.

February 9, 2013 #

DanielMeah Daniel Meah
@joepie91 no seriously i dont trust you. your a a hacker. hackers are loosers.

February 9, 2013 #

joepie91 Sven Slootweg
@DanielMeah So I should take this weak attempt at an ad hominem as an admission that your argument was invalid to start with? Good to know.

February 9, 2013 #

DanielMeah Daniel Meah
@joepie91 Weak attempt? at what?

February 9, 2013 #

joepie91 Sven Slootweg
@DanielMeah You're just looking for a way now to escape from the corner you argued yourself into.

February 9, 2013 #

DanielMeah Daniel Meah
@joepie91 hardly.

February 9, 2013 #

JordanMichael08 Jordan Michael
@DanielMeah @joepie91 haha obviously doesn't know joepie. The government winning cause they have cash is not a fact. The fact is (continued)

February 9, 2013 #

DanielMeah Daniel Meah
@JordanMichael08 @joepie91 Please fuck off :) this isnt anything to do with you jordan.

February 9, 2013 #

JordanMichael08 Jordan Michael
@DanielMeah @joepie91 don't ignore the facts based on who said them.

February 9, 2013 #

DanielMeah Daniel Meah
@JordanMichael08 @joepie91 i don't ignore facts. i just dont believe what this hacker is saying. he lives in his own world.

February 9, 2013 #

joepie91 Sven Slootweg
@DanielMeah @JordanMichael08 Okay, it's starting to get a bit annoying now. Assuming you mean "cracker", what exactly do you base this on?

February 9, 2013 #

joepie91 Sven Slootweg
@DanielMeah @JordanMichael08 Do you have any proof whatsoever of me ever having broken into anything *at all*?

February 9, 2013 #

DanielMeah Daniel Meah
@joepie91 @JordanMichael08 your name is all over the news, blogs etc. you always deny it. ow and IRC logs apparently.

February 9, 2013 #

joepie91 Sven Slootweg
@DanielMeah @JordanMichael08 And which of those news outlets has provided any proof as to me doing anything at all? And if I have [...]

February 9, 2013 #

joepie91 Sven Slootweg
@DanielMeah @JordanMichael08 [...] actually done anything, why am I still on Twitter and not in jail? Your reasoning sucks, buddy.

February 9, 2013 #

DanielMeah Daniel Meah
@joepie91 @JordanMichael08 am not sure of that one. but just because there isnt police evidence does not mean u didnt do anything.

February 9, 2013 #

joepie91 Sven Slootweg
@DanielMeah @JordanMichael08 Ah, you must be unfamiliar with "innocent until proven guilty".

February 9, 2013 #

DanielMeah Daniel Meah
@joepie91 @JordanMichael08 ow am familiar with it. but am not stupid. I know your guilty. i know your a hacker. you got lucky i guess.

February 9, 2013 #

joepie91 Sven Slootweg
@DanielMeah @JordanMichael08 Ah, do tell me how you "know" that I'm "guilty". You're a psychic, and you never told me?

February 9, 2013 #

JordanMichael08 Jordan Michael
@joepie91 @danielmeah how many times did joepie argue AGAINST DDOS and hacking? Arguments with Tux and X and C0ld?

February 9, 2013 #

DanielMeah Daniel Meah
@JordanMichael08 @joepie91 who the fuck is Tux and X and C0ld? what stupid names are those? they have twitter?

February 9, 2013 #

JordanMichael08 Jordan Michael
@DanielMeah @joepie91 that there are a lot of cases both USA based and UK based that have upheld individual rights over federal (...)

February 9, 2013 #

JordanMichael08 Jordan Michael
@DanielMeah @joepie91 interest. These are examples of individuals winning over government. The uk just ruled copyright linking as (...)

February 9, 2013 #